Interesting… very interesting. Saw this on a blog a couple of days ago:
Abbot Management is currently accepting Film and Television Screenplays for consideration.
The Producers and Production Companies that accept our submissions expect a professional quality product. That being said, most of our Screenplay submissions will be rejected, some will be placed in our Development Library, and few will be selected for representation and sent out for Producer / Production Company consideration. Regardless of our decision, in most cases our coverages are forwarded onto our writers so they understand what works / does not work with their Screenplay – free of cost.
Free coverage? Nice. Usually writers pay services $60+ for “industry-quality” coverage of their scripts. Intrigued, I surfed on:
Our team includes an East Coast Manager, a West Coast Manager, an Entertainment Lawyer, a Development Manager, and fifteen Script Readers.
We currently represent 13 screenwriters and are developing the works of 28 Screenwriters in our Development Library. In our short history we have received over 500 submissions, and represent only the highest quality in film and television Screenplays.
We have never sold a Screenplay, then again our doors are still closed to the industry. Our estimated launch is Mid April, when we will distribute our Screenplays to the Producers and Production Companies that accept Abbot Management submissions. Until then, we will continue to develop our Clients material and evaluate new writer submissions.
Sounds great: best case = management, worst case = free coverage. I googled and found another blog mention, with an apparent quote from Tim Lambert, the guy who runs Abbot:
I work for Abbot Management- a Screenplay Management and Representation Company. We currently employ 15 Readers and do something unique in the entertainment industry – in that we always share with writers who submit material to us the coverages that we recieve on their work. Everyday we are sending out multiple 5-25 packes packets to sceenwriters saying something along the lines of – I’m sorry Alex, we’re passing on your work, however I’m attaching the 4 coverages we recieved on your script so you can see what our readers felt worked / didnt work in your material. …
We’ve been around approxomitly Four months – and for the the past three months we have been working with a team of database programers who have been building us a pretty radical content management system complete with a readers / screenwriters / buyers / and administrator login – it has far more features then inktip, zoetrope, and triggerstreet combined. Among other things, it allows us to sort by every screenplay that fits certain criteria – ex: low budget horror – and will display loglines, coverages etc. We then have a database of over 5,000 producers / production companies that three individuals have been working full time for there months putting together – and using this database we’re able to sort by, for example, production companies that make low budget horror.
The database sounds like inktip, but these guys are in an entirely different business. While inktip charges writers to participate, these people charge no upfront fee but become your manager, so they get a cut of any deal that results. So that is their goal: to generate deals. Sounds even better – and free coverage is a genius “gimmick” to get tons of submissions fast.
Why so fast? They want to accumulate new clients and scripts NOW in preparation for the big feeding frenzy to fill the vacuum after the strike ends.
But I’m a small, petty, and skeptical guy (i.e., a writer), so I keep googling. There are 3 Tim Lambert’s (1 a writer/director) listed on imdb, but no “abbot management” – and no mention in the HCD – but then again, he said the company is new.
I give these guys points on their business plan and strategy, but… are they on the level? One thing optioning Supervillain DIDN’T do for me was get me representation, and I could really use that. Why should I be suspicious if it’s free? This is still Hollywood. Plus, if they sign you and they end up being less than professional, that reflects poorly on you and your work.
So… anybody submitted to these guys? Anybody had dealings with Tim Lambert?
[2/21/08 Note: In the weeks since I wrote this post, I have submitted two screenplays to these guys. They are new, but I like what I have seen so far. As your personal guinea pig who came out alive, I encourage writers to submit their stuff and learn from their coverage.]
February 1, 2008 at 5:27 am |
I was very impressed with them… sent them my script about one month back and didnt hear anything for about three weeks… then they sent me an email, passing on my script with a 15 page word document attached, complete with three coverages. Two of the coverages were incredibly constructive, and one of them was more terse and negative. I’ll be working on a re-write, thanks very much to the feedback they provided, and will definitly be resubmiting a revsion in the future.
February 1, 2008 at 11:54 am |
Thanks John – good to know.
February 6, 2008 at 6:43 pm |
I just submitted one of my screenplays to this company. I will let you know what happens when they get back to me
February 6, 2008 at 7:21 pm |
Thanks Daemian – and good luck!
February 7, 2008 at 9:12 pm |
I sent my screenplay in about two months ago – there was about a three week
turn around before I recieved my coverage, and subsequently a phone call.
Abbot was a fan of my script, and being that I was in NYC, Tim subsequently
took me out to dinner and showed me their business model, and their battle
plan to sell my script. By far, one of the most professional people and
organizations I’ve ever come across!!!
February 7, 2008 at 11:15 pm |
Thanks for the info, Chiara! A great help. We have been discussing coverage but now we get valuable insight into the management operation itself. Sounds like the battle plan is to your liking.
I uploaded a script and got coverage the very next day – more on that later…
February 8, 2008 at 11:48 am |
So I got my coverage today and it was very professional. I submitted my screenplay on the 6th and today is the 8th so I’m very happy with how prompt they were and the coverage was awesome.
February 12, 2008 at 9:53 am |
Got mine as well. The turnaround time was lightning fast and the coverage was free and much appreciated, but some of the content of the coverage itself left me scratching my head.
Two sets of coverage came back in just over 24 hours, and they were each very, very positive. I received the highest possible score in some of the categories. But then a day and a half later, a third set came back completely contradictory to the first set. Lowest possible score in some of the categories in which I had received the highest possible score from the other readers. As a writer trying to improve his material, it is difficult to know how to proceed or know which reader to believe. More on this later.
September 3, 2008 at 11:43 am |
Just got my offer to sign up. Has anybody done that yet? If so, what do you think about their work?
September 3, 2008 at 6:58 pm |
I came here to see the latest and greatest on Abbott. I received one single review (mostly negative sprinkled with a few good scores) on a screenplay I submitted in March 08 coupled with a “pass”. The ending line of the letter left me scratching my head. I could not determine whether or not it was a form letter styled statement or not. Here it is. Does it look familiar to anyone?
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Hello Arthur,
We had one of our readers review “The Comb Over Guy” and have decided to pass.
I’ve set you up with a login so you can review your coverage and better understand why – please visit http://www.abbotmanagement.com, your username is your email, and your password is xxxxx.
At Abbot Management, we have a firm policy that we will never charge a writer to evaluate their material – we are unique in the entertainment industry in that we often share our coverage with screenwriters, free of cost, regardless of our decision. We need it for our own purposes and figure why not share. That being said, if your find your coverage useful, and would like additional readers to review your material, providing you with additional feedback and development notes, we offer additional reviews at $20 each.
I took a look at your script myself, and feel you have a unique, entertaining voice. That being said, if you have an additional script, we’d be happy to review it free of cost.
Best,
Tim Lambert
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The last line was encouraging, but i blew it off as a “form letter” styled statement and decided not to submit another script.
So why am I writing? Today I received another letter asking me to submit that same screenplay to their “buyer’s login”. Now I’m really scratching my head. It’s probably the same letter you received today Robb. Received it at 4:49pm. Really confused now.
Art
September 3, 2008 at 8:45 pm |
For what it’s worth, I’m pretty sure Cody Cannell is the son of the legendary Stephen Cannell. I don’t think Abbott is fake or anything, I just wish I understood the way they operate. I’ve combed the web and see nothing negative on them.
I do see heavy advertising placed to attract screenwriter’s to the site. I also see ads for “non-paid interns” to read all those scripts coming in. Which makes me gag, but that’s the hollywood formula. Some bitter 18-21 year old working for low or no pay gets to be the gate-keeper to Hollywood.
Art
September 4, 2008 at 8:34 am |
Art – that rejection/acceptance is… interesting. 2 commenters on my other Abbot post got repped yesterday as well – sounds like there has been some real movement going on. I’m guessing we will hear more from others soon. Keep us posted.
And about the interns being the gatekeeper to the industry: sad but true. As a former script reader myself, it is a tricky business. Inundated with (mostly bad) scripts., I don’t see how else agencies and production companies could function, but it is depressing for the writer… More on that in a full-on post perhaps.
September 4, 2008 at 6:14 pm |
I got a response from them today saying they would like to include my script to the “buyers login” and that I must agree to a “writers agreement”. I’ve checked the site and my coverage, which was all good, and even got a reply back from a response from Tim Lambert.
Does this mean they want to represent me? I’m not entirely sure. I know they’re new but I don’t know too much bout these guys.
September 4, 2008 at 9:04 pm |
I have read the contract several times. I’m not a lawyer but it It looks pretty fair. I think what these guys really want to do is find opportunities to sell the particular screenplay that you submit to their site. That does represent you per se, but not in the traditional way a literary manager would.
The contract states that the relationship is non-exclusive, meaning you could find a traditional manager yourself and sell your work through them. But if, through Abbot’s efforts (inclusion on their site counting as one type of an effort) they find a buyer for your work (and you accept that offer) this would entitle them to the respective commission.
Hey, whatever works. This game is about exposure. Can’t sit around and wait for these “traditional managers” with their traditional ways of acquiring clients. Same for agents. They don’t want you until you become a hot item.
The key word for me is non-exclusive. I can get exposure on this site from a strong marketing plan aimed at soliciting to producers and agents, but still be free to shop my work and accept the best offers coming to the table. If Abbot strikes first and gets me an offer, I have no problem with the 10% to 15% manager commission.
Good luck everyone!
Art
September 4, 2008 at 9:19 pm |
Gray – Tim Lambert of Abbot commented on the other post, so check that out. Apparently the “buyers login” and actually “representing you” are two different things. In his comment he left his email as well as phone numbers for questions/clarifications.
Art – Amen. The thing I found most interesting (the thing that inspired these posts in the first place) was this creative new approach – sort of like inktip as an agent. On inktip you pay a flat upfront fee for exposure, but then the scripts on there are never evaluated or vouched for by anyone – who knows if they are any good. Production companies might be hesitant to look at this mound of unscreened work. Abbot’s system would seem to be much more attractive to the buyer – work which has actually been screened and approved by a legit gatekeeper. Very interesting experiment. And the non-exclusive thing gives you exposure without a downside, at least any that I can see.
September 5, 2008 at 12:27 pm |
Robb, this is all good dialogue. Good job, man.
Art
October 8, 2008 at 2:19 pm |
I have just submitted two screenplays to Abbot, per catching it on a search and then also finding your blog. I am very interested to see the coverage from them, as trying to hit contest deadlines have caused me to submit scripts with alot of typos. I hope that with these two polished, and refined, that they will meet at least honest coverage, positive or not. Thanks for the blog, I skip everything but the screenwriting stuff, but thats what im into
October 13, 2008 at 8:21 am |
Thanks for the comments Art and Neight. Good luck and keep us posted!
October 13, 2008 at 7:21 pm |
I appreciate all the discussion here. Looks like I’ll be submitting to Abbot right about now! I’ll report back.
December 3, 2008 at 5:50 pm |
Has Abbot actually agreed to represent anyone on this board? I just submitted a script this afternoon. Can’t wait for the coverage.
Great job on starting this thread, Robb. It’s extremely helpful.
December 5, 2008 at 12:08 pm |
Hey Peter – thanks.
It has been a long while since I spoke with anyone over at Abbot, but it appears they are really putting all their energy into the “buyers’ login” thing discussed above. I’m not sure where “traditional management” (sending scripts out like an agent) fits into their plans for the short-term.
Anyone else know more?
December 28, 2008 at 10:32 am |
Thanks a lot for starting this thread. I just came across them on the internet and I was really skeptical, I thought it was one of those cheesy agencies who would try to scam you, but they seem pretty legit.
March 3, 2009 at 4:21 am |
happy new year Robb!
It’s nice to see that this thread has been going on for over a year now. Lots of positive reviews for Abbott, but has anyone had any success with them?
My boyfriend and I are fixing a few broken pieces in our script before we embark upon this screenwriting journey…
March 3, 2009 at 11:43 am |
Thanks Kasia! There has been a lack of info about Abbot lately. I haven’t heard anything, and their website doesn’t include any news. Anyone heard anything recently?
March 20, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
I submitted my screenplay about two weeks ago and just went back to their website to find the number to call them. I was shocked to find their website gone?? It says “address not found”. Anyone know what is going on with them??
Thank you.
March 21, 2009 at 10:18 pm |
Wow – CaliGirl is right. After I read her comment I hoped for the best and thought maybe they were just having quick server issues or something. A couple of days later the website is still down. Anyone know the scoop?
March 28, 2009 at 10:45 am |
As of 3/28, Abbot’s site is back online – good news.
March 31, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
I submitted a couple scripts to Abbot Management a few months back. I was invited to list them in the “buyer’s login”. A few email updates periodically have said they’ll be launching the site, “going live”, soon. But then nothing happened and no news.
Not sure what’s going on over there and haven’t heard anything for two months.
I got some useful coverage on my scripts, but now I think this company is a dead end and not really legit. They have not sold a single script as far as I know and don’t seem to be moving their business forward.
Pity, it was a good idea.
March 31, 2009 at 9:50 pm |
I submitted a script in July of 2008, which received 6 sets of coverage. Tim offered me representation, saying my script was one of his “favorites”, and also one of the highest-rated ones. All very heady stuff.
When the site went live, Tim told me they were sending my script to one of the big mucky-muck production companies in town. That was months ago, and I haven’t heard a word from anyone since.
Abbot is a legit company, albeit a start-up, so for those of you who are anxious for a quick turnaround, I’d look elsewhere.
April 10, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
Robb,
I have tried to find the “abbot page” you mentioned in one of your posts but am unable to find it. You had stated in that post there were “links” to the coverage you recieved from them which I would very much like to see before I submit to them. Any chance you could direct me or post the links. thx
April 14, 2009 at 12:09 pm |
Mattmoo – Thanks for the comment. I’m uncomfortable passing around the coverage I received, but I recommend submitting to them for the free coverage. Or – as I’ve recommended on other posts – joining zoetrope.com for some good peer review.
As for an “abbot page,” I’ve just been linking readers to http://www.abbotmanagement.com – I hope that’s the link you’re referring to.
May 16, 2009 at 12:32 pm |
The website for Abbot has been down. I called them and was told that they are having problems with hackers and hope to have the site back up soon.
May 27, 2009 at 2:02 pm |
Abbot’s site is back up. So at least they have a web presence again. But there still is very little mention of them within the industry. No listings on IMDB or even IMDB Pro, and still no script sales as far as I know. I think they could use a PR firm or get onto some industry panels or something.
The concept is a good one, but they really need to step up their game and push some scripts around town.
June 27, 2009 at 8:21 am |
I found their web site today and sent in my script. I got an automated response from them that suggested they have my script and they will contact me after my submission gets reviewed. Crossing my fingers and toes….